The following is a conversation on the 3++ sites chatbox, as I tried to hunt down decent blogs to read and find out why so many of the old ones were discontinued, dropped or deleted.
This is going to come under the catagory for: some people are completely insane and need to get a smack in the head so the shit they call brains has another chance to settle.
mrbeniss: im going through all these old links i have to 40k blogs man there has been some attrition
mrbeniss: any good ones left?
captaingrizz: meh mostly just rumours or fanbois now
captaingrizz: you dont like 3 plain ole drones with a Standard?
GloriousDemise: nope
mrbeniss: That's kind of tragic really. I wonder what GW had to do to make so many people give up on them
GloriousDemise: GW hasnt been given up on
GloriousDemise: the problem is keeping up with the output is nigh impossible
GloriousDemise: there's something akin to 20+ new detachments across the board
GloriousDemise: there's formations outt he yingyang, supplemental books add more chaos
mrbeniss: the last game i played a few days ago we were using 4 codexes and the BRB
mrbeniss: thats a lot of shit to consider
captaingrizz: years with slow to no steady content or release schedule, then ramping it into overdrive and the only thing theyve stayed consistant about is the lack of communication with customers and players?
mrbeniss: so is the complaint about the backflip on their release schedule, a perceived balance problem or their PR stance? Because I don't think any of those things have ever stood in the way of internet personalities posting their opinions before
GloriousDemise: what do you mean backflip on release schedule?
GloriousDemise: they ran out of old books already
mrbeniss: going from nothing to full overdrive was the comment
GloriousDemise: theres never been complaints about it
GloriousDemise: most people are happy to get their books updated.
mrbeniss: a new edition and codex every 2-4 years is what i thought we'd all expect
GloriousDemise: are they happy with the updated rules in the book is a different issue
captaingrizz: theres tons of complaints about the current release schedule....
mrbeniss: im happy enough with the new rules, it broke the backs of certain playstyles completely and those playstyles were not healthy
GloriousDemise: most of those complaints are beyond retarded grizz
captaingrizz: lol. new eldar is healthy?
mrbeniss: i didnt say army, i said play style
captaingrizz: in your opinion GD
mrbeniss: as in MSU/parkinglot
mrbeniss: its still very strong in some situations
GloriousDemise: theres not a valid based opinion in regards to most of those complaints
mrbeniss: but not as common
PoundPuppie: shure because eerythig after it is going to be more amped people already crying admek going to be over powed because it has ignore cover
GloriousDemise: Actually havent seen a complaint that was actually valid
GloriousDemise: in regards to the release schedule.
captaingrizz: again, in your opinion
captaingrizz: just because you dont agree with it doesnt invalidate it
GloriousDemise: find a valid complaint then based on your opinion grizz.
GloriousDemise: its not about my opinion on it
captaingrizz: I assume you think the games the best it's ever been. lots would disagree
GloriousDemise: Whining because GW pumped out a new book after 1-2 years instead of 6 isn't a valid opinion.
PoundPuppie: they just need to keep realeaseing nobody s obligated to buy anything
GloriousDemise: I dont agree that its the best
GloriousDemise: I actually stated the opposite.
GloriousDemise: In regards to the rules INSIDE of the new releases.
GloriousDemise: But most of those people where bitching when theyre book was 6 years old and getting shit stomped
mrbeniss: I knew people using the 4th ed tyranids book instead of the 6th back in those days. you play the game you want to play
mrbeniss: yeah i havent touched my eldar since 5th ed because of the lingering effects of the codex i had
captaingrizz: you cant just pick a codex from another edition and use it
PoundPuppie: thats fine i could care less what people play its about options
GloriousDemise: having an issues with the rules should not count valid against the release schedule
mrbeniss: and then they released an update that was almost a copy-paste of the original book and i gave up completely
captaingrizz: i dont care about the release schedule, i care about the lack of communication with players
GloriousDemise: at the rate theyre pumping out theres no way they could
captaingrizz: are you complaining about 6th ed eldar?
GloriousDemise: unless they hire a staff just for that.
mrbeniss: grizz if i allow it then thats what happens, and they suffer the effects of having special rules and stuff that might no longer exist
PoundPuppie: so you wan t people to play old shit and the people who have new shit are like fuck that is what your say mrben
mrbeniss: i got the 6th ed eldar book on my bookshelf, it didn't particularly change what i felt was bad in the old book and what i had in my army so i dropped it. haven't opened it since 2013?
captaingrizz: heh
captaingrizz: thats the first complaint ive heard about someone not wanting to play 6th ed eldar...
GloriousDemise: well he does have a valid point
PoundPuppie: 6th edition eldar book was good
GloriousDemise: 6th didnt fix the previous eldar book
GloriousDemise: it just broke serpents.
mrbeniss: wut. where did i say i force people to play old armies? i said they're free to do so and i would allow it
captaingrizz: hey theres a formation with the wraith knight right
PoundPuppie: who said gw needs to refix every codex they redo they dont
PoundPuppie: in fact them releasing it is better then them not supporting it at all and removeing the army
mrbeniss: and noone is disagreeing with you? that's called product support?
PoundPuppie: yup
PoundPuppie: capt there is
captaingrizz: what did i disagree with
PoundPuppie: as a matter of fact there are 2 formations
captaingrizz: i see wraith host
captaingrizz: thats it]
PoundPuppie: and wraith construct
GloriousDemise: wraith construct is a formation inside of a formation
GloriousDemise: but there is also the stand alone formation wraith host
captaingrizz: isnt that in their dichurion
GloriousDemise: But i think that one is forced 3 units of WG
captaingrizz: yeah
PoundPuppie: exaactly capt asked if there is a wraith formation i said yes there are 2
GloriousDemise: yeah the Decurion has the Wraith Construct.
captaingrizz: meh, might be cheaper than the mandatory shit form the dichurion
GloriousDemise: yes and no
GloriousDemise: the jetbike formation that is required is still pretty cheap
PoundPuppie: if you just want a writh knight in your eldar army you just take a writh construct with one the mandatory hosts
GloriousDemise: but you still cant really spam the wraith construct formation in there.
PoundPuppie: shure you can you can play 3 in an army easy
GloriousDemise: thats not really spamming but yeah
GloriousDemise: thats not a real change from the old book
PoundPuppie: you can play 6
GloriousDemise: that is possible but handicaps the army
GloriousDemise: and basically rocks papper scissors you lose lol
Shadowmancer1: I need to get another couple of Wraithguard boxes
Shadowmancer1: and a Wraithlord
PoundPuppie: im just saying you can can spam if you want i mean its all about objectives and your not gettting them off one unless your brining it to them
Shadowmancer1: then I can run that formation
captaingrizz: 70+160+160+160+120+295 for WK formation
PoundPuppie: for what formantion
PoundPuppie: capt
captaingrizz: i dont have any eldar, im just thinking about taking a few WK as cheap as possible
captaingrizz: wraithhost
PoundPuppie: if you do the bikes you can have like 3 51 point units 1 50 point units farsseer and a warlock
PoundPuppie: and all the wk you wat
mrbenis: this conversation it hilarious, it went from a discussion about how GW are upsetting their customers to how to most effectively spam eldar formations. another great segue
captaingrizz: you asked why so many people quit and were upset
captaingrizz: got nothing to do with this conversation
mrbenis: oh my god man I'm done. peace out
Can anyone see why I get sick of these people? Their myopic 2-dimensional view of life boils down to bitching about shit they don't understand and then whipping the white tiger over whatever FOTM shit is in fashion. They flew completely offtopic at the drop of a hat due to what I can only see as an inability to directly address their problems. These people actually exist in real life and it saddens me to see them able to congregate so easily. This is why anonymity is important on the internet people, to break down a congregation of morons ability to form.
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